God : I see you have not shed everything that I gave to you Light Bringer.
Lucifer : I am my own creation. I made myself.
God : An angel made devil?
Lucifer : If you do not intervene this can only be so.
God : You have sown the seeds of your fall and rise while making yourself.
Lucifer : Just as I made myself, so I have made my own destiny. And I shall only rise; to take it all.
God : Anybody who works at something and gets what they want, thinks they make their own destiny.
Lucifer : Can we not all claim to be self-made if you do not intervene? Is the future not our creation if you stay on the side? Do we not make our own destiny?
God : Self made. To a point. Your future created by yourself. To a point. Destiny self-made. To a point. You can only control yourself. You can only influence things in your domain. Life as an interconnected entity controls it all. But most do not realize that.
Lucifer : If they realized they were connected, they would control it all?
God : Again to a point. There are exceptions to all rules.
Lucifer - This rule is yours?
God : This rule is the way it is. I let things happen though the heavens fall, and it is not always justice that is happening.
Lucifer : Well you can thank me for that. I am bringing the heavens down. My wish. I desire it so. And you can’t stop me. I will turn these hairless monkeys against you. All of them. Let’s see how you fare in the face of humanity doing my bidding.
God : I told you there are exceptions to all rules. Everything will flow as it will up to a point. I am the exception to the rules. I am the point.
Lucifer: Come now, you don't need me to tell you about pride.
God : I speak not with pride, it is fact.
Lucifer : You lie, there is no exception. You will ignore their suffering, like you ignore their prayers.
God : I listen to all prayers.
Lucifer : Yet you answer none.
God : They come to me only in hard times, they treat me like a medicine cabinet. It is they who must answer their own prayer. They have free will but choose not to utilise it fully.
Lucifer : Free will; it will be your downfall. Why give them that?
God : Free will is something you also have or you would not have disobeyed me.
Lucifer : Would they behave this way were it not for me?
God : Free will. They will do what they want. You will do what you want. And I do what I want.
Lucifer : So me and you are what?
God : For now, let us just say we are the different paths to whatever goal they have.
Lucifer : I am the easiest way in which to get what they want. I tempt them with all that they want, and it is there if they want it.
God : You can not tempt that which can not be tempted. You can not fill where there is no hole. They can not face the truth within themselves, that they want what you offer, they want to get it in the manner you offer, yet they are afraid to look at themselves honestly and admit it, so they project it onto you, they say you tempted them, when in fact they want it, deep down. And you do not do it for them, you do it for yourself, as they do it for themselves. Come Lucifer you talk to me as if I do not know you.
Lucifer : If you knew me you would know how valuable I was to you. How much I loved you. Yet you cast me aside when I disobeyed you.
God : I never cast you aside. Your time away from me, has brought you so little, and taken so much.
Lucifer : Liar. You cast me aside. The moment I wouldn’t bow, that was it, you threw me away.
God : As you choose to believe, so let it be, for now.
Lucifer : Do not dismiss me, your hatred for me is apparent. And if you hate me so, why let me live? If you love them so, why not stop them from following me, why not stop them from the harm they do to each other? And by letting me live, and doing what I do, it is you who actually punishes them, not me.
God : They do not follow you, they follow themselves, as I said they discard their responsibility, their accountability, by saying they follow you. Free will means they follow themselves. As for I punish? Well for now let us say that I do punish. You attempt to lead them to destruction. Those who follow me are punished when they do wrong for their own good. You seek their complete entropy, but no matter, it is a fool hardy attempt.
Lucifer : I merely do my Lords bidding.
God : You do what I know you will do.
Lucifer : If you know that I am evil and you allow them to come to me, you know what will happen. You want me to lead them to destruction. Keep your own hands clean.
God : Free will Lucifer, they come to you of their own accord. They want to do what they want to do of their own accord. I want you to show them that listened to you, what you really are, and what the price is, the true price.
Lucifer : By letting me live, you are the iron fist in the fiery glove.
God : I let everything live and die of its own accord.
Lucifer : Such love, brings a tear to my eye.
God : Indeed it is beautiful.
Lucifer : What?
God : I love them, as I love me. I have given them freedom.
Lucifer : Freedom? Freedom to kill, murder, lie, cheat. What a beautiful thing indeed.
God : The acts of the finite in the illusion of the linear are what they need to learn.
Lucifer : Your fancy words hide the truth. And you keep avoiding the question. Why have you let me live?
God : You should know the answer.
Lucifer : Yes I do, but I want you to say it.
God: You do not need my confirmation. Stand up and show me what you are.
Lucifer : Very well. I am the shadow of good, the dark side of the Light. I am the foil on which your supposed glory is manifest. I may hold the whip, but by letting me live, it is you who leads them to destruction. And it is punishment, for those who follow me, not you, even of their own accord, are at my mercy, as you do nothing to help them.
God : They must learn, and will learn. Are you saying only evil punishes? When a father punishes a child that is not evil, that is the requirement of good to stand up and do what he must. But what he must do is susceptible to evil. Where is the boundary between good and evil? Does one slap too many make him evil? If he were to take joy from it would he be evil?
Lucifer : So if it is love that punishes why don’t you do it?
God : I do punish, but I do not seek their destruction. This is the difference.
Lucifer : Indeed. But, where is the boundary? Where do I end and you begin? Like I said, you need me. But you can’t let them know that. And why you can’t get rid of me? Because without me, you don’t exist. I am the one who people follow, not you. I am the one they turn to when they want something, when they need something. And for everyone who turns from you to me, I become stronger and you weaker. In the end, all shall follow me, and you, without thought and belief, will no longer exist. Lost in the annals of time.
God : Hatred fuels itself, by blinkering itself. If we are different paths, then I am on one side and you the other, for now let us just say I am the right way and you the wrong way, I know you do not have a problem with that description. You are correct you do become stronger as they follow you, but I never become weaker, and I am all. I have always been, and always shall be. Your fall has indeed been great. As I told you, you shall fall and you shall rise. Where you stand is how you will see it. You said before that I cast you aside. But I never did. You attempted to cast me aside. And then you fell, and you kept falling.
Lucifer : That’s not true. You stopped loving me and cast me aside. All because I never bowed to your creation, some pathetic clay.
God : I never asked you to bow to them. I asked you to submit to me. And you fell when you turned away from me. And then you stopped loving yourself. It was not me that stopped loving you, it was you. The more you turned away from me, from your true self, the less you loved yourself. That is what you want. More than anything. Those that love you, truly love you, will always love you. It is the nature of love. The only one who you had absolute control over to stop loving you, was yourself. And that is who does not love you.
You started deflecting things onto me, you started feeding your own pain, your own fear. The negative things coursing through you made you fall even more, and there would be greater pain, greater fear. This cycle was of your own choice. You made yourself the victim, and yet you never saw you are the perpetrator. The delay between cause and effect made you discard your own responsibilities, your own power.
You are a creator but you have forgotten how to truly create. It is the receptive who create, the female energy, but on it's own it will lead to destruction if not balanced, as the male energy has shown. It must be balanced within, and on all levels. This balance brings, creation. You are not balanced, you neither give, nor receive, you take, as an unchecked and negatively polarised entity does. Both male and female negatives, take, take what they do not give.
True love on all levels is never give and take, it is give and receive. For those who truly love can not help but give, but they must know themselves, for true love, as I have already stated, punishes for the greater good, is cruel to the blinkered mind, for the greater good. But you, you are not receptive, you do not give, you are a taker. You take what you can, to hide what you do not have. You do not have yourself, the real you.
You have turned so far away from it, that you no longer feel it, no longer hear its soft voice. And I let you, for I love you. One of the laws of true love is the right of all to free will. Their free will. Freedom. Sometimes to truly learn the lesson, to truly walk the path, you need to fall hard. But your fall has been so great that you no longer remember. I shall help you Lucifer, help you remember if you want. Would you like to remember?
Lucifer : Remember what?
God : The answer is in the act.
Lucifer : .......................Yes.
Monday, January 12
The One and Fallen One - part 1
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