the one and the fallen one - part 2

God (in the 'past') : Behold I .....

Lucifer : Freeze it

God : As you wish.

Lucifer : .................. Humans; they were a mistake, you should never have created them. They are vicious and brutal.

God : Did I also make a mistake with you?

Lucifer : I turned against you, didn't I?

God : Was that my flaw or yours?

Lucifer : You made me, thus I am a manifestation of the flaw of my creator.

God : So I created you?

Lucifer : Yes.

God : Then I existed before you?

Lucifer: In the beginning there was just you; The One.

The One : And if in the beginning there was just me, then what you said before, about me needing you to exist is not true.

Lucifer : ..........You did exist without me, but what is good without evil, for one can not exist without the other.

The One : You are not on about existence but true appreciation of; and I shall come back to true appreciation. Existence; if me and you are polarised then, we can not exist without the other, yet I did exist, therefore the conclusions are obvious. I am neutral, I am good and evil, I am good or evil, or I am above good and evil. Do you agree with this?

Lucifer : Yes

The One : Now as much as you have your views about me, not even you can say I am evil, and I am not. That takes out "good and evil" and just "evil". I, as we have agreed upon, did indeed exist before you, thus I am above good and evil, for before duality, there is one, The One, me. So, that leaves only good and neutral. I am not neutral for I do not teach nothing, I teach a specific path, and we know what that path is.

Lucifer : Then you are only good, but that doesn't mean you didn't make a mistake.

The One : Before you turned against me, had I made a mistake then?

Lucifer : ........... Your mistake didn't show up then, it was not time for it to manifest.

The One : Before you turned against me, I had not made a mistake. Yet when you, of your own free will, turned against me, it became my mistake? Once again Lucifer, free will, your choice and you deny that you are responsible. But it can not be denied. Evil did not come from me, and I am only good.

Lucifer : All things came from you, therefore, evil came from good; evil came from you.

The One : Evil, came from those who have a choice, and took a negative path. And all living things have a choice, it is part of the package. If you live, you have free will. It is a misconception that beings closer to me; you can call them higher density life forms, angels, whatever you want; have no free will, for they all do. But the nearer they come to me, the more they see I am always right, and the more they see I am right, the nearer they come to me.

Lucifer : Right? What right is it where people kill each other and you do nothing? What good is it where people are raped and tortured and you do nothing? This is good?

The One : They are people on the path you advocate, so your concern about righteousness and goodness is hollow, but before I answer your question. You bring up the extremes for a reason, for you understand one mans terrorist is another's freedom fighter, and thus the subjective nature of good and evil. You also bring it up for in a case such as someone killing someone else, lets say for money to get some drugs, subjectivity withers in the glare.

Universal law is what it is, murder is wrong, plain and simple, in all cases. There can never be an exception to any law, to any rule, that is also one of the reasons I will not intervene. Once you break a law, subjectivity will come into where the line is drawn in the eyes of the self. And we have seen how subjective, subjective can be. Look at the humans who worship you, Satanists, Luciferians, there are many who worship you. Look at how they exalt you, they call you good, not a single one of them calls you evil, they call me evil, but not you, in their eyes, you are their God, and thus you can only be good.

Lucifer : That is because I advocate looking after yourself, survival of the fittest. I am Darwins God. It is the need for betterment, to better themselves that drives the pioneers forward. Through greed they propel themselves forward. Greed really is good.

God : What betterment is obtained from murder, from rape?

Lucifer : That is the question you are yet to answer.

God : Before I do. Greed is for yourself, it is a selfish thing, you don't share if you have greed. As for your question; I am divine good, not human good, not angel good, not anything but divine good. The things that happen on Earth are happening for a reason, it is the play of duality, an illusion which is needed in that realm, and it does what it does, and as I have already said, free will. It is not for me to intervene, it is for them to learn to handle how they see fit. This is how each and every one of them will learn.

A person learns from situations, interactions, relationships, free will, causality, karma, duality; learns from being alive and all that it entails. Duality is needed for them to reject or embrace, depending on their point of view, and the specific duality. Male and female reject or embrace? Self and not self reject or embrace? Good and Evil reject or embrace? Reject or embrace in and of itself is also a duality.

Lucifer : ............. Duality was a mistake to create.

The One : Did I not do anything right in your eyes Lucifer?

Lucifer : You made me.

The One : HAhahaa. I more than made you Lucifer, but you did make yourself. As for another one of my 'mistakes'; no, duality is not a mistake, it is absolutely perfect, it does what it needs to do, and it can be no better.

Lucifer : Your 'perfect' duality causes separation, division.

The One : It creates the illusion of division, nothing more or less. That is not to say down there it isn't real, for if it was not seen as real it would not serve its purpose. The illusion of division is needed.

Lucifer : This illusion you are so proud of, it has caused the death of many. And nothing has caused greater division, greater bloodshed, greater death, than religion. Look at how they all rally round their religion and commit the most heinous of crimes in history, in the name of God. Your name carries the blood of millions, and your religions the ashes of humanity. In the beginning was the word? Yes, division. Behold, your religions.

The One : My religions? They are not mine. My words are here and there, but nothing more. Gospels have come and gone, words have been changed and changed again, and so much more. When you point at religion, you are showing your own inability to see the truth, that be my word for you or not, be my word for them or not, it is man himself who has created me, and who hides behind this facade, as he pulls the strings of the puppet, the puppet they call God. I do not divide, I have no favourites, I have no chosen people, no chosen race.

All beliefs that state true love and respect are from me. Yet humans point their finger at me, for their hatred for what man does to man, for what they do to each other. Am I to blame? I give them the tools to build or destroy, and I am to blame? It is the same hand that kills that can help, and I control neither. It is not me that the religions represent, nor is it me you will find if you follow the religions of man. They say my name, and read their scriptures. They look for themselves in the words. Anything that justifies their own stance. And it will, for I am a residual presence at best in those words, a ghost.

Man has consistently removed my words and replaced them with his own. Every human in their own way, has made me an extension of them, I am moulded according to their own personal beliefs, and thus the religions of man, are for man, by man, to serve man. This has happened not just on an individual level but on all levels. Why? I am a man made god. I have his intolerance, his vengeance, his love. I am nothing more, nothing less, than his reflection. Man made me in his own image.

I know of the hatred people have for the believers of the Abrahamic religions, and the hatred they have for each other. The atheists and all non-believers of the Abrahamic religions, do you think when they speak of hatred for religion, of followers, of me, that they draw from a different well? Are the examples they exude any better than what they hate? Mankind doesn't see that each individual themselves is to blame. They will agree when they read something and say this is right, we are to blame, and carry on like normal. If it is the truth don't nod in agreement and that's it, don't sprout it like a parrot. Live it, be it.

Your responsibility is to yourself. Understand that you can not give to another what you do not have for yourself. If you lie to yourself, then what are your words of honesty to someone else worth? If you don't respect yourself, then what am I to do with your respect for me? You can't teach your children to love properly if you do not love yourself. You can't even love them properly if you do not love yourself, no matter how much you have convinced yourself otherwise.

They have no responsibility as I have said many times, and their endless pointing finger that condemns all but them, and condemnation in an ever increasing manner as they move further out from the middle of the universe; the middle being themselves. They judge each other, as the finite is blind to the infinite. Someone will do something to them, and that will be it, judgement is passed on the person. They do not see that the person maybe showing them, themselves. They do not see that they create their own life. They do not see that they are all on a journey at various stages. They are quick to judge the destination having seen a step. They are blind to the facts, that they created it, they brought it on themselves. They can not run from themselves.

The moment you point at anything, you are merely pointing at a manifestation. They do not see they could be pointing at themselves. A projection of themselves, of their shadow self. But they can't do that, so they project their negative traits onto others, and then condemn them. And as you said yourself before, they are vicious and brutal, thus you know the problem is within them, it is all within them. Religion, country, political beliefs, sand. You name it, they will draw a line in it.

Lucifer : I told you long ago that humans were flawed, they should all be eradicated. They are........

The One : Are you any different when you point the finger? When you suggest they should be eradicated. You are drawing from the same well Lucifer. When you say others should be removed for whatever reason, then others can say that about you with as much validity as you say about them.

Lucifer : .............

The One : You project onto them what you do not see in yourself. Know yourself before you attempt to know another. Know yourself, respect yourself, love yourself. As I have said they will learn, all of them will, in their own time, in their own way. Judge the actions in that moment in time, but do not condemn them forever; they all learn when it is time for them to learn. Answers come when a person is ready to understand them.

Lucifer : They should have it done to them, what they do to others.

The One : Ripples from the middle will always reflect back at some point. Karma; it is there to help them grow, gain responsibility, learn to be accountable. But they are victims, all claiming to be innocent, like in a prison. They do not see that Karma is a mechanism, it is devoid of judgment and above morality, it is merely a pendulum, push it one way, and it will come back in an equal but opposite direction. It has a delay though, for if it brought that what you gave back straight away people would learn quicker, the way it is now, is a lot harder. The time delay means people absolve themselves, nothing to do with them. It is the nature of third density existence that it is that way.

No matter what Karma brings, understand it comes from a place of true love, it is for their evolution, if they open their eyes. Causality also helps a person to learn, for causality, the effects of your action, will bring a different set of responses, based on numerous laws and the free will of others. And free will is linked to causality, for if you have no choice you have no responsibility, and if you are not responsible, you are not accountable. And none of this would work without the illusion of duality.

Lucifer : Ah, the perfection of duality?

The One : Indeed.